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@admin-2- Posts:15894
Allows Edits? YesHave you guys ever noticed that somebody who leads with how long they have been doing Photography is usually about to say something to offend somebody else?
“I have been doing photography for 34 years and…”
When I see a sentence started like that, I always cringe because I know that I’m not going to like the delivery of the rest.
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To be honest mate i have never had any issue posting things myself opinions are everywhere , but some do make me feel a bit less respected not for my photos but as a human being until this year , i was told the photo community can be full of this type and that type and i never noticed until this year , there is a lot of wannabe gatekeepers who i have no time for at all , normally the chat like that comes from people who are not great themselves but they think they are way up there lol.
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@lightandshadow- Posts:627
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Allows Edits? YesWhen people interact with strangers, they often feel a need to establish a right to be heard. Some let the content alone speak for them. Others need to call on external authority to, in effect, establish themselves as knowledgeable and competent. I don’t jump to the conclusion that the person is insecure and try to read through the opening statement to get to the content. Occasionally, the lead statement is akin to “back in the old days” but often, as you say, it is an attempt to say “so I know more than you do.” In that case, it will be responded to my the person spoken to and by by-standers as a personal attack–an ad hominem argument–that is thinly disguised as disparaging. On some occasions, the speaker fails to recognize this and might even deny that intent.
Curious that I’ve never seen someone establish their authority using words such as “I’ve won…”this or that or multiple competitions or juried art shows. You might find “I have xxxx’s of followers on Insta” but that is likely to result in a “that proves why I shouldn’t listen to you.”
I once joined a FB group that had the overt intent to foster critiques. The organizer asked members to name the page. I thought we would be in trouble when he chose his own name as the page’s. He claimed that critiques should recognize a broad range of levels of experience and be focused on helping all to improve but he chose to subject me and a few others to criticism (as opposed to critique). I withdrew from the group.
On other occasions, I have been “called out” by a photographer on a critquing site. When I responded with an explanation of why I thought the comment had missed the point of the image or tried to explain the reasoning behind the way I had rendered a scene, I was told that I wasn’t playing the game right. I responded that I thought the game was to have an exchange rather than simply accept any statement as having an ultimate value. I later sort of accepted the criticism but the point remained valid: exchange of POV is more valuable than listen to me, even if the person does know more than the hearer.
Some people just have a crying need to be “the big dog.” Playing the big dog undermines the creative impulse within the community.
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That fb can a bit of a joke sometimes , i joined a very well known page on there won’t mention who it was but the admin selected certain photos that he thought deserved a special mention , I got selected and most regulars kind of applauded if you will and it did feel nice but when the admin started selecting more and more of my post the regulars must have got upset because all the nice words they had been giving me soon dried up.
I joined another page , i posted 1 photo that got just over 10,000 likes ( i know crazy ) the following day i posted a 2nd image from the same shoot as the first image so it was easily as good as the first and edited with the same look and vibe to it , this picture got 21 likes lol , How on earth can anyone improve when the jealousy is dripping off some people so heavily ? i left that group and closed my fb down with the feeling that place was Pants 🙂
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@admin-2- Posts:15894
Allows Edits? YesI think the weird thing about the Facebook algorithm is that activity is rewarded with activity. If it starts to get likes in the beginning, then it will be continually show more and more people. I know on Instagram there is literally a three second measurement that they taken into account and based on that you can tell how well a reel will do. I imagine it’s much the same for Facebook.
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@robertapple- Posts:9980
Allows Edits? YesI don’t really respond to such things as I have what I am told is a super power being that I really don’t have many “Fucks left to Give” as in “I don’t give a fuck” , but having said that, my response to a statement like that is usually
“I have been in photography since I first stole chemicals from my grandma’s dark room and blew up and old abandoned English Ford Cortina. Ah the joys of nitrates, oxidizers and acids.”
The looks I get from the High Brow Types are priceless, which secretly is the only reason I respond. I probably should have been photographing those faces.
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@patography- Posts:5670
Allows Edits? YesI don’t pay much attention to such comments. I will take another look at the image prompting the comment and self evaluate. Usually I end up disregarding the comment. One of the first things I learned is “there will always be critics; shoot what pleases you, the creator” . In my age bracket, I most often hear “That is a really good camera; you must be a good photographer.” (Similar to: “You’ve played violin for 40 years? You must really be good by now.”) I usually just thank the person for their comment and move on. But….I have also learned that sometimes the comment is made by an older, often lonely, person who just wants to talk or tell me about their long ago experiences with a camera, photos or music – thoughts that were triggered by a camera in my hand. If someone wants to “one up” me, I could care less. I am satisfied being “me”.
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If someone wants to “one up” me , I have discovered those are the insecure ones 🙂 you can spot them easy , always needs to go one better , they know more , own more , seen more always with an extra few details to make it seem real lol 🙂
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@patography- Posts:5670
Allows Edits? YesThat can be very true – I’m amused by it but not impressed. Sort of like the little guys driving large noisy pick-up trucks making donuts at intersections with behavior that screams “look at me!”
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We have something like that here , we have a real issue with kids on those e bikes that can do about 65 mph over three grands worth of bike , doing wheelies up the center of the roads between cars and all this at rush hour traffic , our roads are not like in america our roads are very narrow in comparison , when the police catch them they are now confiscating the bikes , it can get costly trying to replace one of these.
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@admin-2- Posts:15894
Allows Edits? YesYeah, they are trying to confiscate those bikes here now too. Exactly the same problems.
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A few lads have done it on big heavy motocross bikes and ended up crashing into oncoming cars , ambulances ,police , crowds looking on and some kid complaining about how much pain they are in some even have the brass neck to say the oncoming car was at fault haha , crazy as hell.
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@lightandshadow- Posts:627
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Allows Edits? YesThe comment is nearly always intended as a classic ad hominem argument and, as you say, one up on you. I try to deal with any conversation by responding (if at all) to the substance of the comment. Sometimes, there is something worth noting so it shouldn’t be completely ignored though taken with the proverbial grain of salt. If as you also say, it speaks of someone who is lonely, they that conversation can become something that is healing in spite of its poor starting point.
Rarely. But it could happen that way.
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@patography- Posts:5670
Allows Edits? YesAfter a while it’s easy to separate the sincere from the snarky. In my line of former work (a nurse with a strong background in geriatrics) I’ve experienced such “lead ins” bring a measure of healing and affirmation of the person’s value. Some of the stories were astounding.
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@robertapple- Posts:9980
Allows Edits? YesI was pondering this and how to talk about it with students, about how to handle it in a way other then myself, and it occurred to me, thinking about my new granddaughter, we are all photographers since the time of our birth , Focusing those little images in our tiny eyes from the first time we open them and electronically implanting them in our brains for the duration of our lives.
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I’m fortunate in that regard; no one usually talks to me about how long they’ve been doing photography. My wife jokes that I look too old, grumpy, and rough for anyone to approach me, which works just fine for me! On a serious note, I think you need to have thick skin to maintain peace of mind. I do worry about young people these days; they don’t seem to handle critique or criticism well. I also can’t stand when people demand respect without earning it—probably picked that up from movies where criminal scumbag thugs insist you owe them respect.
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