- November 26, 2013 at 5:58 am #114073
I would love to hear comments on the compositional aspects of this photo. To me it works, but I would love to hear objective points of view as well, and if you feel it doesn’t, why.
I took this photo a few weeks ago at a medieval festival nearby. Lots of interesting characters to photograph at these events, and everyone is usually very willing to get their photos taken, so it makes it so much easier.
Thanks in advance
- November 26, 2013 at 6:25 am #114075P MarioneBlocked
IMO nothing to change.
- November 26, 2013 at 6:41 am #114077xParticipant
I’m no pro, but I like it, too!
- November 26, 2013 at 7:26 am #114079caimiParticipant
Why is there an arrow in the model’s mouth? What is it that “works” for you? The b&w processing is very pleasing and the model is composed nicely but the content leaves me scratching my head.
- November 26, 2013 at 10:56 am #114086
Thanks to all. @caimi this is what I was unsure about. When I took the photo the concept was clear. She was shooting arrows at a target, and putting the next to be shot arrow in her mouth. When she saw me taking a picture she posed. I purposely placed myself so that her head was in front of the black area in the background, so her wild hairs would be contrasted against it, but without the context, that was clear to me at the time (and somehow still in my mind is clear to me), the arrow in the mouth may make absolutely no sense at all. When I look at this photo I almost see the rest of her holding the bow with an arrow in it just below, but to anyone else it may just look like a girl with a “for whatever reason” arrow in her mouth.
Unfortunately, (or fortunately!) I only had the 85mm lens, so I could not zoom out to get more of her body. I love the image, but the arrow may be one of those things that makes it make absolutely no sense at all without a little more context.
Thanks for commenting.
- November 26, 2013 at 12:01 pm #114089xParticipant
Hmmm, IMO, without the arrow in her mouth, she is just another lovely looking woman. *With* the arrow, the viewer asks questions, wonders what’s going on – in other words, becomes engaged. It might possibly have been better if the whole arrow was in the picture…….but ……
- November 26, 2013 at 2:24 pm #114111P MarioneBlocked
I agree, I like the arrow. She is not another kid.
- November 26, 2013 at 4:15 pm #114134Lenny WollitzParticipant
I didn’t like this at first but it has been growing on me. Even if you could I don’t think zooming out would improve it. I like the mystery.
- November 26, 2013 at 5:57 pm #114144
I guess I’m not so crazy then. Thank you all for your comments.
- November 26, 2013 at 7:55 pm #114149Lenny WollitzParticipant
No one said anything about the status of your sanity 😉
- November 28, 2013 at 7:55 am #114239Tony BeginnParticipant
Why could’nt you zoom out? Legs were invented befor zoom lenses. I remember someone much smarter than me saying “If you need to explain the picture, its not right” That is different to a record shot that is for your own consumption.
- November 28, 2013 at 8:27 am #114242
@tonyb55 – I can’t say that I am as skilled as I would like to be to control all these things well. All I can say is that I was using an 85mm lens on a crop sensor camera, which makes it a significant zoom, and that when I stepped back enough to get more of the body, I was so far back that she didn’t even know I was there. I took several shots like that which caught more of her body but only the back of her head. When I got closer she noticed I was there and became more engaged, but at that point I could only get this much of her body. Plus, the more I stepped back the more that other people walked across the frame.
I intentionally took the 85mm to force myself to take portraits, and to get more practice with this lens. In this case I wished I could have zoomed out a little, but such is life… Overall I am happy with what I got.
I am not sure that the person you quoted is right. That would eliminate the photographs of all conceptual photographers or abstracts, etc. I see your point as it applies to this photograph, but I would not take that as a rule-of-thumb. As it applies to this photo, that was exactly my concern as well. I love the image. I find it very pleasing, I love the tones and textures, and I love the pose, but wondered if the arrow in the mouth without more context might have been confusing, or detract from the photograph overall. I guess it must to some extent.
- November 28, 2013 at 1:41 pm #114250
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- November 28, 2013 at 10:40 pm #114310
Thank you @myrk . but none of it was intimidating, and after all this is the Shark Tank. Trust me, I have given out strong opinions myself, and I have no problem receiving them. Everything I have heard is absolutely valid and exactly the objective opinions I was looking for.
Thank you for your comments, and for everyone’s opinions as well.
- November 29, 2013 at 10:45 am #114334Sebastian RusamParticipant
Hey @fredf . I generally like the shot and have no problem with the content. But i dont like the cropping too much. It feels cramped up. Especially because her face is clearly turned to her left but you have the same amount of space between her head and the frame on both sides.
I would have maybe proposed to get the whole arrow in the picture (the most important part, the tip, is cut off) to make the picture appear more free and open and not so tight.
- November 29, 2013 at 2:09 pm #114349Felix BonomoParticipant
I have no problem with the arrow in her teeth. It brings a subtle sexuality to the composition. What I consider distracting is the lock of hair that crosses her face and goes across her nose. It disturbs the beauty of the face, and is distracting.
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- November 30, 2013 at 10:44 pm #114441kalpanaParticipant
I am a No pro but IMO this photo would have been perfect if you were able to capture a little more of a context to tell a broader story. As you said, i too wished you had a different lens that gave you the freedom to zoom out a little. Also, if the eyes had little more brightness, it might have helped raising the interest?? I feel it this way maybe because i prefer a little more brightness in my photos.
Overall i liked the photo.
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