The rise of AI (Skynet and all that!!)

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        Noticing a lot of AI being passed off as photographs on social media, mainly shown to me by my family(I try to avoid Facebook and the likes) but the images are obviously not real. Animals and particularly birds are prime candidates for this. I commented on one just to see what the reaction would be, I got slaughtered. The funny thing was the bird they said they took the photo of did not in reality exist. When asked what species it was they could not tell me, or where the photo was taken. I know most of the editing programs use AI, useful of course, but how far until it is no longer an image you took, but one you made. It is also having a massive impact on the design industry. You can make any design you want without any skill at all.

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          I like to think that in the future, much like today’s GMO Free Food,  (GMO) “Genetically Modified Organisms”, or (GMF) “Genetically Modified Food”,

          We will have (AIMA) “Artificial Intelligence Modified Art” like AIMA Free Art, There is already a Special effect free movement starting in the film industry.

          People in general have gotten so lazy looking for instant gratification, But instant gratification brings a lack of true pride in your work.

          Technology was supposed to be used to make us better and unify mankind, but the trend seems to have gone the other way and made people lazy and ungrateful, and as we have recently been reminded an excellent tool to spread terror. As many psychologists are now observing we are currently the most connected people’s ever ,  but also the loneliest  and most divided ever.

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              Definitely loneliest

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              I honestly think at this point the only thing that will save entire industries is legislation. Now, whether they pass that fast enough is the question.

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                    That’s Very good, Patrick. Do you do any work with him?

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                        No mate , I don’t bother with much more than a basic camera and still trying to get to grips with it haha , George has been at this photography for many many years and has worked with a lot of well known people on all kinds of projects from personal work to commercial work, This AI work he does is his little space were he can break free from the camera but still create this stuff from his imagination and he is also a very good writer when you combine the two you can make some beautiful looking work.

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                      the most worrying part is the huge visual illiteracy among non-photographers or non-designers, lots of people believe that AI generated images are indeed factual, and that’s a huge problem…

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                          I know George clearly states on every piece it is AI generated This is his IG

                          https://www.instagram.com/george_at_wonderland/

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                            Nah @federicoalegria, the most worrying part is AI being used for Evil, And I don’t use the word evil lightly.
                            Imagine a parent posts a image of their child on line, an innocent act to share a loved one with family and friends. Shortly there after the FBI shows up at your door to have a conversation you never imagined.
                            Predators use real videos and images of child exploitation (Porn) to “train” AI programs to create more content(Porn). Moreover, predators often use social media images of kids to create “deep fake” look-a-likes for their perverse programs, So while the actual video may not be of a real child suffering abuse, the AI program “learned” from real videos and uses the faces and likenesses of real children.
                            This isn’t something to be imagined , it’s real and it’s the world we live in today , its happening right now.
                            That’s what worries me.

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                                You are spot on Robert. Truly frightening.

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                                  I am not sure this is a fault with Ai but more a personality issue , i just think in life you have good and you have bad , The stuff you mention that has happened has being going on for a long time , photoshop and other tools have been used long before AI arrived for such terrible things.

                                  Too deep a topic for me , there is 1000’s of good things by having AI and 1000’s of bad things it all boils down to how one decides to use it at the end of the day  , bit like Guns

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                                These are my first and maybe my only go at trying this AI generated images , I just wanted to have a try ,

                                The poachers

                                Gamekeepers House ( more game graphic than real life )

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                                    Nice work, Patrick. I watched George’s video with great interest because my son works in AI and we have long conversations about the potential future impact in all areas of life, including photography. For me, the “tell” it is AI work lies is in the lack of depth and detail around the subjects’ eyes. Once they can fix that flaw all bets are off!

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                                    One i finished last night

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                                        I like this one a lot!

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                                            Thank you Wendy ,

                                            I am just curious about what can be done with this tech and one’s own input via adjusting your Prompt , The images above i used a simple free to try version and got these results , when you take a pro subscription you get far more control over each piece you do with all the fine tuning and lots of people you can reach out too and get help with things if need be.

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                                          It’s interesting technology and I look forward to where it’s going. But I honestly think it kills commercial photography, design and writing within 5 years.

                                          I am not sure about hobbyists. I don’t think so cos the motivation is slightly misalligned. Time will tell I guess.

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                                              I read your thoughts with interest mate and can only imagine how this will come into play

                                              I asked an AI chat system how it thinks the effect will be felt for commercial photography learning companies .

                                              Ai response in full

                                              The impact of AI on commercial photography, design, and writing will depend on how companies like yours adapt to the changing landscape. If your company exclusively sells online PDF tutorials as a way of teaching new photographers the art of photography, AI could potentially disrupt your business in a few ways:

                                              1.Increased Availability of Free or Low-Cost AI-Generated Tutorials: AI-powered tools could generate tutorials that are similar in quality to your company’s PDFs, but at a lower cost or even for free. This could make it harder for your company to compete and attract new customers.

                                              2. Demand for Personalized and Interactive Learning: As AI becomes more sophisticated, learners may increasingly demand personalized and interactive learning experiences, which your company’s PDF tutorials may not be able to provide. AI-powered platforms could offer adaptive learning pathways, real-time feedback, and personalized recommendations, making them more appealing to new photographers.

                                              3.Evolution of Photography Education: The rise of AI could lead to a shift in how photography education is delivered, moving away from traditional methods like PDF tutorials and towards more immersive and interactive approaches. This could make your company’s current offerings less relevant and in demand.

                                              To mitigate these potential risks, the company could consider the following strategies:

                                              1.Embrace AI to Enhance Your Tutorials: Instead of viewing AI as a threat, your company could incorporate AI into your tutorials to improve their effectiveness and engagement. AI could be used to provide personalized feedback, suggest exercises based on individual progress, and create interactive simulations or virtual experiences.

                                              2.Focus on Specialized and Niche Expertise: While AI may be able to generate general photography tutorials, your company could differentiate itself by focusing on specialized or niche areas of photography, where human expertise is still highly valued. This could involve offering tutorials on advanced techniques, specific genres of photography, or using specialized equipment.

                                              3.Develop a Hybrid Learning Platform: Your company could move beyond PDF tutorials and develop a hybrid learning platform that combines self-paced online learning with interactive elements, live workshops, and mentorship opportunities. This would provide a more comprehensive and engaging learning experience for new photographers.

                                              4.Build a Community and Networking Hub: Your company could create a strong online community and networking hub for your students, fostering connections, sharing experiences, and providing ongoing support. This would add value to your offerings beyond just the tutorials themselves.

                                              5.Continuously Adapt and Evolve: The key to success in a rapidly changing environment is the ability to adapt and evolve. Your company should stay up-to-date with the latest AI developments and explore innovative ways to integrate AI into your offerings without losing sight of the human element and the importance of personalized guidance.

                                              By embracing AI as a tool to enhance and complement your existing offerings, focusing on specialized expertise, providing a hybrid learning experience, building a strong community, and continuously adapting to the changing landscape, your company can position itself for continued success in the era of AI.

                                              Lots to think over , but the truth is going forward i think people who can embrace in ways that improves the companies chances of a good future should and those that don’t will be left behind to a degree.
                                               

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                                              Yeah I would agree with it to a point. But I would also point out that it has been trained on “tech bro” content and those guys are notoriously (and ironically) anti-education. And every tech bro thinks it can be fixed by tech. And every tech bro from Bill Gates down has failed at it.

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                                                  It sure is a massive topic , i don’t think humans will be replaced any time soon if ever.

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