- April 25, 2019 at 3:20 pm #402278
Canon 5d mk4
Processed in LR and PS
Interesting voices and views in the shark tank these days.
A very recent image. Have tried to look at it again and again – not quite satisfied, especially with the foreground. Have tried to increase the play of colours in the yellow grass etc, but feel that it takes too much away from the mountains and sea. Not sure. Question is if you have any views or suggestions to improve the image.
- April 25, 2019 at 5:59 pm #402296
Hi Elin. I’m not an expert on landscapes but I really like this one, especially on my larger monitor. The rocks in the left foreground and the water leading the eye to the mountain in the background and the not overdone sky are all positives for me and keep me looking. I’m not sure if I like the horizon being centered from top to bottom and will be interested in what the landscape people have to say.
- April 26, 2019 at 4:17 pm #402464
Thank you Lenny. I have tried various crops to change the balance and this was what I found worked best. Therefore I have been playing with the foreground to see if it has effect, but not found a satisfactory solution. Maybe best to let it stew for a while.
- April 25, 2019 at 7:23 pm #402307
Elin its superb! Maybe with a heavy dose of pixel peeping one could find a teeny weeny minuscule small as not to be noticed fault but as the overall effect is outstanding who would want to to that? Went to Pick of the Week to nominate this and someone had got there first! Just get it in a frame and call it a wrap! Well done.
- April 26, 2019 at 4:18 pm #402465
Thanks Billy for stroking my feathers the right way this time ;), positive words very much appreciated.
- April 25, 2019 at 8:04 pm #402310
Like the others, I like it the way it is Elin.
But after reading your intro to the image regarding the foreground, my only thought would/could be a small crop on the bottom, however, it does end up in a non-standard size for framing. As all I did was crop the image, maybe clone out the top of the bottom rock.
- April 26, 2019 at 4:21 pm #402466
Thank you Paul, tried both suggestions – tried cloning out the stone but it was as if the image lost its anchor point….
- April 25, 2019 at 9:31 pm #402315
I like the crop as initially presented Elin. Sometimes a centred horizon works well and I think this image is one of those times. The clouds in the sky, the body of water, the foreground and hills all lead the eye to the central hill and it’s reflection in the lake and so I wouldn’t crop it. I raised the vibrance of the central hill just a tad and also the yellows you mentioned in the foreground.
What I really like about this pic is the clarity throughout from foreground to the distance. There does seem to be some slight darkening on the LH side of the image which I lightened also.
Despite from my fumbling around with it, it is a stunning image as is Elin. Beautiful.
- April 26, 2019 at 4:23 pm #402467
Thanks Graham, your suggestions are actually very good. I´ll work with them a bit – will post the result 🙂
- April 26, 2019 at 9:02 am #402411
Very nice Elin!
- April 26, 2019 at 4:23 pm #402468
Thanks Kent !
- April 26, 2019 at 9:48 am #402424
Dr. Elin this is very nice indeed.
- April 26, 2019 at 4:23 pm #402469
Thank you Mr Thomson, appreciated !
- April 26, 2019 at 10:51 am #402444
I like the original more after seeing what others have done to it.
- April 26, 2019 at 10:57 am #402449
No Suggestion Elin but there is this.
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- April 26, 2019 at 4:24 pm #402470
Thank you Robert 🙂
- April 26, 2019 at 6:07 pm #402517
This beautiful as it is Elin.
In response to your original question, I tried a couple of things to see if they would be of any help in satisfying you. Here’s what I’ve tried.
The man from mars move in Lab applied only to the foreground. This helps drive similar colours apart which can add to depth and detail.
Some selective dodging and burning in the foreground constrained with luminosity masks.
A run of blur sharpening which is constrained to the foreground with a gradient mask.
Personally I think you’ve nailed the crop and exposure so the rest is simply a matter of your taste and as I said it’s truly beautiful as you’ve originally posted it.
- April 26, 2019 at 6:41 pm #402519
Yeah the rule is two thirds…………………………………………..lovely works for me!! 🙂
- April 26, 2019 at 8:49 pm #402534
Beautiful scenery. What a view! I think you are right about trying to get some color out of the foreground, and I think there is red there. so you could try adding red in selective color. Just for a slightly different look I did add some ”warmth” hoping to emphasize the foreground. Also the darkness of the left top corner clouds looked a bit off, so I tried to lighten it without getting it too light. I dodged in that general area, plus burned a bit of the brighter area of cyan just above the land on the left. I added a subtle brightness on the center hill and a touch on the distant snowy peaks just to help draw the eye there. I use the lasso tool and then a brightness or exposure layer. Just be sure to feather the edges so they blend in. Really though, just a beautiful image that does not need much tweaking, if any. (Work more on that left top corner, I seemed to have slipped some magenta in there?)
- April 27, 2019 at 4:55 am #402577
Thank you Frank – a bit too much magenta to my taste 🙂
- April 26, 2019 at 9:26 pm #402538
Hey ElinL – no fair! the shark tank is for “negative” critiquing. this needs no critiquing. Seriously, thought maybe a little dodging here or there but no, hands down this is great as is. The reflections in the water are wonderful. May I ask where this was taken?
- April 27, 2019 at 4:54 am #402576
Thank you Dorothy, the image was taken in Hvalfjörður, Iceland.
- April 27, 2019 at 1:33 am #402566
Very nice,Elin. Really not much needs to be done to this. Most changes were just personal color additions that they would want to see themselves. One variation is not better or worse than your original. My only complaint I guess, is the half and half view of the sky and the foreground…
- April 27, 2019 at 4:50 am #402575
Thank you all for suggestions and kind words. Rob, your edit suggestion is brilliant, exactly what I am looking for. Man from mars in LAB, never heard about it – obviously a technique to to explore – thanks a lot !
- April 27, 2019 at 6:26 am #402580
Here is a Youtube link for Man from Mars Elin. I’d suggest leaving the L channel alone and just deal with colour in the a and b channels first. You can always deal with contrast in a separate curves layer after. Lowering the opacity to taste is part of this adjustment and usually 10 to 30% is as far as I would go. I find it useful when there are a lot of similar colours because it exaggerates the differences. Use the curve’s mask to confine the adjustment to where you want it. In your image I totally left out the sky as it was perfect the way it was. Have fun!
- April 28, 2019 at 5:31 am #402665
Thank you so much for your advice Rob ! The Man from Mars is very powerful tool to bring out colours, easy to overdo things there. I set the opacity to 20% and reduced vibrance a bit. Sharpened and masked carefully – just a touch. This inspires me to go through my earlier landscapes with this technique.
The latest version:
- April 28, 2019 at 9:45 am #402683
You’re a quick study Elin. Very nicely done. I’m pleased you found this technique useful.
- April 28, 2019 at 9:08 pm #402734
Yes it’s lovely …. but …. I found the composition was throwing me off-balance, because the left side felt heavier than the right. Since the island is centered, I wanted more symmetry. Since that’s not possible at this stage, I tried a crop which changed it into what I felt was more balanced in its assymetry. I also made the island stand out a little bit more by adding lightness and contrast to it.
- April 29, 2019 at 9:37 am #402832
very nice indeed. I like the soft muted colors. Yes, you can increase them, if it were mine, I would probably have done that, but it is good as it is.
As for ST: I would “straighten the horizon. I am sure it is level but for me, it works better if the top of the left side mountain is at the same height as the top of the right side mountain.
Looking at this: Have to come to visit. (and come over for a coffee as well! 🙂 )
- April 29, 2019 at 6:46 pm #402871
Thank you Erik, and do come ! Coffee always brewing 🙂
- April 30, 2019 at 1:11 am #402967
Elin, When I first looked at your photo My impression was that the exposure and focus were exquisite but the photo had no classic “hero”. I was unclear whether the photo was about the foreground, the water or the sky. I barely saw the snowy mountains. To solve my discomfort with the composition, I decided that I would sacrifice the foreground so I cropped up from the bottom, Then I realized that as cropped , the left side added very little so I cropped in from the left too. When I had done this , I was surprised to see how the snowy mountains popped into my consciousness as I viewed the photo. I made no exposure or tonal changes.
- May 1, 2019 at 5:37 am #403294
Thank you for your suggestion Gary, but I disagree. The stones on the left side are a starting point for a curved lead to the shoreline and onward to the mountains. The crop suggested by you and other members take the stones out of their role and turn them into something that is best edited out of the picture.
- May 2, 2019 at 1:34 am #403384
Elin, That’s one of the great things about photography, It’s so very subjective, the same thing that floats one viewer’s boat sinks another’s, It is your photo and should please you before anyone else. I often find my personal preferences are at odds with those of people whose work I respect. If you like it, then it’s right.
- May 2, 2019 at 3:05 am #403388
So true Gary. Another aspect is that I may change my mind and agree with you, if I let the image rest for some time and then look at it again. Human perception and tastes are fleeting phenomena.
- May 3, 2019 at 7:49 pm #403620
Nice, I like it, just to try add a different perspective I tried cropping front top, love the foreground which IMO should take center stage to the clouds, also puts the mid mountain on top left POI and rock formation on bottom left POI!
- May 6, 2019 at 7:48 am #404046
It’s a fine fine scene with few to no faults. I tried a few things, so see what you think.
First, I found the clouds in the upper left to lack contrast. I applied a grad filter in Lightroom to the sky then used the adjustment brush to brighten that up. I also thought I might not need all that sky. There are interesting patterns up there but maybe more than needed, especially given the strength of the fore and mid-ground. I saw no major change from the original. Because of the somewhat limited color palette, given that it is early Spring, I converted to b&w, upped the orange and red channels, and reduced the blue channel.
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