Light Painting

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    • #523822
      ndjetfan
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        About a 7 shot composite I have been practicing on lighting and now editing. This was my latest work I done. I have 2 other images posted on FLk but Buckwheat thought this one was good. Thanks Buck and great job on the photo of the week my good friend. Shot with 6-8 second shots @f14 some at f8 (changing things up but had to learn a bit about things on the fly. ISO 250

        Light Painting

      • #523856
        Rob Wood (Admin)
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          Definitely an effective shot, but why did you stack them?

        • #523899
          Erik Fransman
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            Hi Tim, you confuse me with the title “Light Painting”. I was expecting something else.

            I agree with Rob, what is the added value of a 7-shot composite?

            And for me, it does not quite work. It should be perfect when you make a “beauty” shot, or Hero shot as we call it in the trade. IMHO there is too much smudge in the blacks which takes away from the Hero.
            I would also try to clone out the green thingy hanging from the handlebar.
            Here is a very quick and dirty edit (I cannot get it right because the image is so small (800kb)

          • #523907
            ndjetfan
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              Ok so I did do a nice shot with a 30 second exp. But the stacking allows me to put more or less light where I want to. The shop it was done in was had lots of clutter and the floor was not pleasing. Stacking the shots gave me the opportunity to light where I wanted and not light that was not needed. I kept the ISO down and the shots short limiting noise. Most people think of light painting as twirling around lights. This was done with one flashlight lighting the tires, tank handle bars (the green thingy lol is part of this guys bike, to remove it would be like leaving the burger off a hamburger). These guys take a lot of pride in the thingys you might say. I cleaned up the black a bit but haven’t posted it. Does this answer the ?? I don’t normally do a composite image since it would no longer be a photograph. That is why a posted it that way.

              @eric and Rob

            • #523944
              Federico Alegria
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                passed the bold colours presented in this shot, there’s something impossible to avoid… those huge halos around the tires of the bike. i’m no expert in dealing with selective tools, but i read somewhere that Photoshop is implementing some bleeding-edge ai capabilities for situations like this one. second version is a bit cleaner but you can still spot stuff behind the bike through areas like the handlebar and through the tires as well.

              • #523948
                bucweeet
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                  @paul-3
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                  That’s an interesting approach to light painting ndjetfan… And I can easily see it’s benefit when done well.

                  For Erik and Rob ( @erik-fransman @admin-2 )… Unlike the ‘usual’ preconceived notion of light painting where the photographer takes a single, long exposure image and a person moves through the image manipulating light (via waving a light wand to create patterns or swinging lit steel wool, etc)… This technique utilizes shorter exposure times while lighting ‘a small portion’ of the subject with a single light source (usually a flash light of sorts). The photographer then sequentially lights different ‘portions’ of the subject while adjusting the intensity and/or the angle of the light source (if req’d). This offers the potential of creating/reducing contrasts between different portions of the subject.

                  Using this method, it is easier to adjust various shadows and highlights in an image (and yes, I know this can also be done in post-processing as well).

                  In this case, the front tire may have been painted in the first image, then the handle bars and top of the gas tank painted in the second image, then the side of the tank, then it is lit from the back to provide a rim light (so to speak), and so on until the whole motorcycle has be photographed.

                  Once the subject has been painted (lit) to the photographer’s satisfaction, the images are then processed and the painted portions are stacked together to give the completed final image.

                  So, yes, it may not be the usual, preconceived light painting, but once one has seen it performed, one can see it’s potential benefits/possibilities.

                • #523954
                  Rob Wood (Admin)
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                    Ahh I get it now. Yeah, that is actually a really interesting approach. Very clever.

                  • #523963
                    Erik Fransman
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                      Paul,

                      Don’t get me wrong. I greatly advocate using a title that throws the public a bit off. ( I do it all the time)  So I have no problem with the title.  Especially, after your clear explanation.

                      However, since this is the Shak Tank, we give criticisms when the execution can be better.

                      We all have the same problem. Almost any imaginable image has been made and on an extremely high level of quality and creativity.
                      That does not mean we should throw our photographic gear in the bin because everything has been done already and better that we can do it. No of course not.

                      But we should strive for excellence.
                      You also have to ask yourself the question:
                      Who is/ are my public?
                      For whom do I make this image?

                      Lots of possibilities.

                      1. Myself. That is easy. It does not matter what anyone else thinks about the image.
                      2. A specific target group. With this image, I can imagine the owner of the bike. Then it does not matter if that green thingy hangs out. (It does matter that the BG is smudgy)
                      3. General public. In this case, you will have to compete with all the excellent images out there. And IMHO, for the general public, the green thingy has to go and the execution has to be better.

                      Hmm, a bit off-topic. Sorry….

                      • #523997
                        bucweeet
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                          @paul-3
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                          No worries Erik.  I didn’t think I talked about the critiques (just explained this style of light painting).

                          As for who the target audience was for that specific image, I believe ndjetfan explained it pretty well when he said… “the green thingy lol is part of this guys bike, to remove it would be like leaving the burger off a hamburger”.  As for the overall comments/critiques of the post… I have no problems with them as the photographer was asking for critiques, which he received.

                          As for the title of Light Painting… aptly done… considering the image would be black if no light was used to display/show the bike parts.

                          • #525019
                            ndjetfan
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                              Sorry I have been busy. I get the green thingy and if it was for me I would remove it but that’s a whatever ?? As far as the background I see it now and thanks for pointing that out. Appreciate your comments
                              Thanks

                          • #524041
                            ndjetfan
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                              It is a bit different than the regular hey lets light paint something. I do however like to make the photograph (one shot) also. This is a bit different way to do things and I have been mentored (https://acjohnsonphoto.com/about/ on this and oh still have a long long way to go. It is unusual way to do things but many people other then Alec do it. I am now in the process of doing a local fire truck. I live in a small community of 300 people so access to the fire hall and trucks is real easy. Can’t wait to do it

                          • #524055
                            Patrick
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                              Light painting without swirls and random shapes , is a nice technique indeed

                              https://youtu.be/WfGkhnZlWVQ?si=7Dg1RNOSukcPEh_4

                            • #525110
                              Rob Wood (Admin)
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                                No swirls?

                                I feel personally attacked.

                                • #525114
                                  Patrick
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                                    @patrickw-2
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                                    Lol

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